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      <title>Follow-Up: More on Quicken+Mint</title>
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      <pubDate>September 20, 2009</pubDate>
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<p>A couple weeks ago, I <a href="/2009/09/14/mint_and_quicken">blogged about the recent acquisition</a> of <a href="http://www.mint.com">Mint.com</a> by <a href="http://www.intuit.com">Intuit</a> (the Quicken folks).</p>
<p>This weekend, Scott Cook (founder of Intuit) posted <a href="http://www.mint.com/blog/updates/intuit-not-out-to-change-mint-says-founder/">on the Mint.com site</a> about the recent acquisition. He covered a lot of the topics where I showed concern.</p>

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    <p>As you know, Intuit has entered into an agreement to buy Mint. Over the past few days, I’ve read your posts and comments. I understand your concerns about what will happen to Mint in the future.</p>

    <p>So let me set the record straight: Mint.com isn’t changing. It is remaining free. Following the close of the acquisition, Aaron Patzer and the Mint team will remain in charge of Mint.com to continue both its principles and its fast pace of progress.</p>

    <p>We’re not planning to change Mint.com and make it like Quicken. Quite the opposite. Aaron and team will also run Quicken and Quicken.com to ensure this doesn’t happen. Plus they will benefit from this larger pool of resources. I want Mint thinking to infuse Quicken.</p>

    <p>On a personal level, Mint’s leaders have earned the chance to re-invent all of personal finance on the broadest canvas possible. I will give them that chance. Will you?</p>
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<p>I appreciate what he is trying to do here. He's trying to respond to some of the scare posts (like my own) and ensure people that this merger is not the end of a good product.</p>
<p>However, the proof is in the pudding. The reality is that the competition is still gone, and time and again when corporations with competing products merge, the two resulting products are consolidated into an inferior offering (not intentionally of course).</p>
<p>So will I give them a chance? Absolutely; I have no reason to stop investing my time in an excellent free product. But either way, I still say the burden of proof will be on them. What kind of pudding are they going to make?</p>


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      <title>Mint+Quicken: Muicken? Quint? Or Just Plain Scary</title>
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      <author>R.J. Lorimer</author>
      <pubDate>September 14, 2009</pubDate>
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<p>It was <a href="http://www.mint.com/blog/updates/why-mint-com-plus-intuit-is-a-big-idea/">announced today</a> that Mint.com is being acquired by Intuit, the makers of the popular finance software: Quicken, and more recently <a href="http://quicken.intuit.com/online-banking-finances.jsp">Quicken Online</a> (a direct competitor to <a href="http://mint.com">Mint.com</a>). Aaron Patzer, CEO and founder of Mint.com made the announcement, and made several comments and conjectures in the process.</p>
<p>First the potential positives:</p>
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    <li>Both have built up significant relationships with banks and institutions which can be leveraged to provide even more comprehensive coverage of a users' various accounts.</li>
    <li>Each current product offering has features the other doesn't. In theory, the best features of each could be leveraged. In practice, the two implementations are totally separate code-bases, but at least they can reuse the concepts; maybe learn something good from each other.</li>
    <li>The same thing can be said about their various discount offerings (credit cards, mortgages, etc).</li>
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<p>Unfortunately, I don't think all is perfect in care-bear land. Out of Aaron Patzer's mouth himself:</p>
        
<blockquote>This acquisition makes sense to me because, first and foremost, Mint.com and Intuit share a common vision.  Intuit is, and has always been, a very customer-centric organization, with constant usability studies and follow-me-homes that observe how people use software and the problems they’re trying to solve.  This is fully aligned with my design philosophy here at Mint.com. </blockquote>

<p>When I hear this, it makes me wonder if Mr. Patzer has ever used the original desktop Quicken. I moved to the latest and "greatest" Quicken after it became all-too-apparent that Microsoft Money was a dying star. I was thoroughly disappointed after the move; Quicken desktop was a significant drop in usability; I never thought I would actually long for a Microsoft product.</p>

<p>Don't get me wrong, I think Quicken Online is a major improvement from it's former desktop-application counterparts. They implemented a fairly AJAX'y UI using a lot of <a href="http://www.extjs.com/">ExtJS</a> controls and fancy pop-ups. It certainly looks clean and professional. But if it wasn't for Real Balance, I wouldn't use Quicken Online. Mint's toolset it simply more intuitive and usable (which, granted, is much more subjective in the web world -- <a href="http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/10/hands-on-mint-com-vs-quicken-online.ars">Ars Technica had a more mixed opinion</a>). I find the cash-flow forecasting, charting, and reports more effective on Mint.</p>

<p>More serious to me, however, is the lack of confidence I carry in this statement:</p>

<blockquote>[...] Expect all of this goodness to increase after the acquisition closes. And yes, expect Mint.com to remain free!</blockquote>

<p>Why should I expect the goodness to increase, or for it to remain free? After all, the one thing that motivated Quicken to switch away from a monthly fee was competition from Mint (again I'll reference <a href="http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/10/hands-on-mint-com-vs-quicken-online.ars">the Ars Technica article</a>). Plain and simple, competition from Mint is what has driven Quicken to build a <em>competitive</em> product.</p>

<p>That competition is gone (on both sides), and that is scary.</p>

<p>There is a transition that happens (usually it sneaks up on products) where development switches from the best ways to get more customers to the best way to monetize on the consumer base you have -- just look at the RIAA and MPAA: a perfect storm monopoly nightmare.</p>

<p>Granted, this "monetization" direction doesn't occur until a product gets closer to having a monopoly (or at least a decent majority), and when it comes to this line of products, Mint+Quicken just got a lot closer. Sadly, my experience with <a href="http://www.wesabe.com/">Wesabe</a> and <a href="http://www.buxfer.com/">Buxfer</a> (the two primary competitors I now know of) were mixed - they simply didn't have the bank/institution support of Mint or Quicken; and that can be a deal breaker on an auto-synchronize online finance tool.</p>

<p>Intuit <i>is</i> making Aaron Patzer the GM of their online services division. If that position carries enough strength, maybe he can help motivate them to keep innovating. I just hope that when push comes to shove, he doesn't get pushed into a direction that goes against his vision.</p>

<p>Oh well - I'll try to have faith; I for one welcome our Muicken overlords.</p>]]></description>
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